Women’s pronunciation is not dialectal
Is it a dialectal “abuse” as many say? -You instead of what was written –or in words like People And Women? There are also many who say measured even though the word was spelled with.
Henrik
No, this is not a dialectal pronunciation that has crept into standard speech. The fact is that pronunciations like /kvinner/ and /mäd/ are the standard Swedish language with centuries-old origins in Sweden. The pronunciation /kvinnor/ is a newer reading pronunciation that emerged in the 20th century when the view of spoken and written language changed.
Today it is generally believed that spelling should be the guide for pronunciation, but this was not the case in the past. Many also believe that spoken language is becoming increasingly different from written language, but in fact the opposite is the case. It has never been more common to say it than it is today Women with original sound.
Express with with an e sound is originally an Upland/Stockholm pronunciation of the same type as /rev/ for fox. But because the written language had e and not ä i with Therefore, the vowel there was not “corrected” in the same way as in most other words. Therefore, the pronunciation remains in the spoken language of eastern Mälardalen and spreads from there due to the traditionally high status of these dialects.
Adam Horn
Word for older people is not established
In Norwegian we have the word old ice cream for an older person. Does the word exist in Swedish?
Øyvind
The word old ice cream is not very common in Swedish. I find little evidence, for example:
“It’s a sunny and beautiful Saturday and after lunch I’ll go for a walk and if the plans work out, I’ll visit an ‘old ice cream’ in Åvallegården” (Blog 2023)
“Another old Ice Alf, now deceased, worked as a pilot all his life” (Hela Gotland, 2023)
So the word is not completely unknown, but it cannot be said that it is established in Swedish.
Ingrid Olsson
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